Hey I'm in need of some help here. I've always watched the pro body builders and wondered how in the world they got that big, then i found out steroids were legal in that league. I found out about natural body building as got hooked. So now, I want in. I've always been a little stout, not the biggest guy around, but always been told i'm very well proportioned, and have an athletic body type, but I don't know much about the body building part. My family raises and shows halter horses, which are the body builders of the horse world you could say, and they're breed for their muscle and size, so I know how serious it is to be at a high level, because we have raised several world champion horses. So what do my work outs need to start looking like, what types of cardio, should I lift heavy or light, i'm currently taking dymatize elite protein in between meals, and I try to get good food in each meal, but how much should I eat? What should I do to start getting some REAL size and cuts? Any and all help is appretiated, and hopefully you will see me start to compete :)

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Hi Zachary. It seems as though you've got the motivation, now you need to just put in the hours.

It's important to work hard but you also need to work smart to be your best. Listen to your body always, and you'll do more than alright. I know that these are very general pieces of advice, but they'll serve you well in the future when you reach those plateaus.

It may be a good idea to find a personal trainer in your local area... one that could show you the ropes, at least in terms of muscle-building and fat-burning. You may even be lucky enough to find a fitness professional who's a pro (or amateur) natural bodybuilder - That's also your best bet since it's what you're striving for.

If, for the time being, you'd like to focus on gaining some serious mass on your own, my ebook 'Natural Muscle Mass - The Complete Guide' can help... and is ready for download in the "Free Tools" area of this site {The tab appears at the top only when signed in}.

Another great resource which I personally own and endorse is the 'Perfect Posing' set (produced by a veteran judge and posing coach). It includes direction in developing a winning posing routine (with prejudging/mandatory poses as well, of course), tanning, healthy dieting, cardio training, etc. It's a great complement to my ebook because it emphasizes those last few months of leaning down in preparation for a bodybuilding competition.

I hope that some of this will get you off to a great start Zachary. Keep us updated on your progress.

Sounds like Mario has all the bases covered for ya there Zach!! Best of luck in your "Journey".  It NEVER ends, as long as you want it, lol!

Lift strong, Dave

Hi

I agree with Mario, you are motivated and just need the right guidence!

You can get general tips and advice from forums and websites this is great if you have a good grounding and understanding of the sport and how your body responds to training, but its difficult to give anything more than general advice without knowing more details about your history in sport / training, current training, diet etc and for that kind of detailed and specific advice, you need to invest in a trainer, either in person (especially if you need to learn exercises / techniques) or you could look for an online trainer who specialises in bodbuidling for natural competitors. If you get the right advice it will be worth every penny!

Good look and keep us posted on how you are progressing!

Hey Zach,

Now that you know which direction you want to go,that half the battle, your traing should master around the basics with Squats , Dead lifts and Bench Press these will add the size you want and give your foundation for size, and pay close attention to your eating habits because that 95 % is how you will make your gains, just like the horses that your family raise I know that what you feed horses will affect their performace in the show ring, just as you watch you eat will affect your performace in the gym.( I Love horses by the way, my family raised  Standardbreds)  And as the last two replys I agree with they told you and also research everything you find on training and nutrition from books,CD's,internet, magazines etc, just remembe rwhat may work for some may not work for you so if you find something that you like  and it works for you document so that way it in you "bag of tricks". I hope this helps and  have  fun in your in your journey. Drop a line from time to time,to how you are doing. 

OF course, you have to eat often...full of protein & lean. 7 or 8 eight mini meals a day! don't sweat the calories so much...its about what U don't eat, not what u do. AVOID all white things...SUGAR, FLOUR, BREAD, PASTA, RICE....look for the brown, wheat & grain STUFF. Avoid Alchohol period & keep ur lean PROTEIN HIGH!! Lean BEEF, DEER, BUFFALO, CHICKEN, FISH like SALMON & TUNA...PORK not so high on the protein CHAIN. Use Protein shakes & weight gainers that aren't loaded with sugar.

HOPE THAT HELPS....DAVE.

Thanks guys! I appritiate all the help! So far I've gone from 150lbs from my start, to 170lbs in 5 months! Even seeing some more cuts along the way. All the advise is coming in very handy, and so far i feel naked when i dont get those extra meals in now haha!! My bench press MAX was 155lbs in january, now im doing reps with 205!! Max squat was 255, now reps with 315, and max dead lift was 300, now reps with 325!!! Awesome results when i started eating like everyone said! I'm focusing now on short, intense cardio after every other exercise, and cuts are starting to come out everywhere! Now I have another question. I've noticed guys with big arms, have a muscle on the outside of their arm, in between their bicep and tricep. How do I train that muscle, and will it add more size? Also, how do I get the sides and backs of my shoulders to start bulking up more? Thanks everyone!

-Zach

 Zach,

Sound like your off to a good start so keep pushing,one question? You said you do cardio after every excercise? Or do you mean after every other work out? As to your question about the muscle on the outside of the arm it is called the brachialis it looks like bump, so to delvelop that muscle you want to do reverse curls with a barbell,and hammer curls with a dumbell  start out with 3 sets  6-12 reps.  As for the delts  you can try   dumbell side lateral raises, and rear lateral raises  to work the side and rear delts  or even cables varation of the two that I just mention you just have to try them and find out what work best for you. Keep pumping,

Eric

i ment after work outs. at the end of it all i go run drills or yard dashs. but thanks for the advise about the muscle on the side of the arm! ok i have another question here. thanks for your patients with me everyone! i've heard two things about milk, ive heard drink TONS, and also ive heard drink very little. whats the truth there? also, is it a good idea to eat lots of lean ground beef? ive heard of that bein done and beef patties are easy to make, so its less of a hassle. any ideas for quick easy recipes anyone? thanks again for all the help!

Zach,

I kind of figured you meant after work outs, if you did I knew you would be dead tired. Now as far as milk, If you are trying it for gaining size  I would say use in moderation and use 2% or 1% milk with a shake, and just remember too much of anything is not good. Milk is good source of Vit-D calicuim and protein but it has it share of fat so go with the lower fat variety and two servings a day if you use it with whey for a shake.  The bottom line is for you to see how much you need, if your waist is growing then you may need to cut it  back. Now as far as Beef I like beef and it a great tasting and has good amout of protein, Vit-B12  and other minerals as well just be sure to use lean cut like ground sirloin, or bison or venison which are even leaner  plus beef has far more creatine than polutry or fish, so it will make you strong, but I suggest that you get protien from variety of sources such as lean poultry,fish, eggs, whey,and beef, the reason for variety so one: you will not get bored ,two: you will not a delvelop a defincy if you eat one type of meat, ground meat is easy and time saving, but if you master the nutrition side of muscle building as well you should have no problem with building muscle, keep pumping.

Hi zach, hope your work outs are going as scheduled and with lots of consistency!  About eating ground beef.  I also like to eat lean meat for muscle building but beware of ground ANYTHING.  (Unless you grind it yourself).  I personally eat very clean and organic whenever possible.  Ground meat of ANY source can contain questionable fillers.  Many ground beef producers use ground bone and ground grissle which you cannot see in the product.  If you ever watched ground beef being produced....you would never, ever eat it again because of the sanitation issue.

 

 Although eating organic is more expensive, I try to eat lean steaks such as ny strip, or top sirloin.  I buy organic because it tastes soooo much better and it actually contains the branched chain amino acids that we need to grow muscle and it is packed with B Vitamins.  Comercially raised (tortured) livestock DO NOT HAVE THESE attributes in their blood stream and therefore the meat they produce is lacking in many micro and macro neutrients.

Whenever you hear or read about a meat recall it is usually about something ground....ground beef, ground turkey, ground chicken.....don't touch it. Go with lean cuts of meat and you can't go wrong.   

i am a seasoned bodybuilder i have been competing for years so if you could tell me what your diet is and how often you eat and what your work out is like 

my eating isnt that great, but i try to eat plain oatmeal and 3 eggs for breakfast, some nuts and fruit for a snack, lunch always varries... protien shake after workout, and just normal dinners. i try to drink lots of milk and water, and stay away from sweets. i do isolation, monday chest and triceps, tuesday back, wendsay off, thursday shoulders and biceps, friday legs.

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